A couple of days back I came across this post about ... yes, 'Language Terrorism' as the name of the post says. That post refreshed some of my thoughts and feelings that coursed through the mind a week or so back watching the absolutely abhorrent scenes that played out in the Maharashtra Legislative Assembly. But before I dive into sharing my thoughts, let me first clarify a few things.
- This post is not to disagree with what Bharat says in his post. I agree to quite a few things he says, and at the same time I have different views on a couple of things. When I say '... not to disagree with Bharat' it holds for the views expressed by him, which I am sure are shared by quite a few.
- This post is not about Hindi (or any language) chauvinism. So please hold off your spears and bows-and-arrows.
- Obviously, a lot of readers may not agree to the views expressed. They are entitled to their own views, as much as I am to mine. While I'll not be surprised at any passionate comments, I expect you to be civil while putting words to thoughts. I expect. I will understand, though, if that is not the case.
First, on the issue of the events in the Maharashtra assembly. They were totally abhorrent. Period. Even if (mind you, if) the MNS was right about the point it was making, it was wrong to express it in the way they did. In his post, Bharat (twitter.com/BharathGanesh) presents the view of ad-man Bharat Dabholkar on the issue of Abu-Azmi taking oath, which I reproduce here.
Dabolkar went on to say, what big thunder would have stuck had Mr Azmi uttered those couple of sentences in Marathi, since he knew what was coming. I am sure he could have easily managed to speak that. But he did not and will not – sheer reason being - he believes that Hindi is our national language. Legally he is allowed to take the oath in Hindi, but the legislator was quoted as saying that Hindi is our National language (Which itself is completely lame) and no one can insult it. In what way is asking him to take the oath in the state’s official language an insult to Hindi? When Mr Azmi is a member of the legislative assembly of Maharashtra, he can definitely make an effort to speak out two sentences in the state’s official language. MNS is not against outsiders. Mr Yadav rallying in Sivaji Park talking about “Tamaam Muddhey” and the rights of outsiders in Mumbai is what triggers anger in the MNS. Then they choose the wrong path to settle it out.
I remember feeling slightly ashamed at being a Marathi Manoos reading about those events and seeing the images on television. They are doing more harm than good to the Marathi Manoos - especially for those living outside Maharashtra.
The next part of Bharat's post is about the existence (or not) of a national language for the Indian Republic. He argues that officially India does not have a national language; instead there are twenty two official languages (that is, business of the State can be conducted in these official languages). In my opinion the question of whether India does (or does not) have an official national language is a moot point. The question that begs to be asked is, 'Should it have a national language?' Now, before you train your guns or bows-and-arrows or spears at me for being a 'nationalist', let me assure you that it is not my intention to be any such thing. I am simply asking this in the context of whether a national language can be a factor in national integration. Again, let me emphasize that it's not a single-point agenda for integration. It may again, be debated whether language (any language) can be a tool in uniting a country. But let me put forth a couple of views.
I have spent almost all my life in Bombay (yes, I like to call the city by it's good 'ol name). And the city is in some ways a mini-India. Growing up, I had all sorts of classmates in school - Maharashtrians, Gujaratis, Tamilians, Keralites, Christians, Muslims, Kannadigas, Marwaris, folks who traced their roots to the Hindi heartland, and yes, even a couple of folks from the North-East. The same was true for many of my friends in the locality. I grew up playing cricket with my friends, and many of them were Tams, Mallus, Gujjus as they're called in city slang. And never, once did I feel that they were from another part of the country or that they were ... well, different. As kids, I guess, we don't worry about all these things that adults bother themselves with. But one thing was for certain. We all talked - and fought, and argued, and shared jokes - in Hindi. Mind you, the point is not that it was Hindi, as much as the existence of a common language understood by everyone.
Now, to be fair, language need not be a barrier in getting to know someone. These past three years I've been in Bangalore, and I've made countless friends, Kannadigas, Tamilians, Keralites. Some of my best Tamilian friends do not know Hindi, while I often speak in English with many Kannadigas. Language is not - cannot be - a barrier in building relationships. I am just trying to make the point that while it's not a barrier, it is definitely a great boost in reaching out to the other person. I remember watching a show by stand-up comedian Russell Peters. When two Americans meet, they chat up with each other, and go out for a beer. When two Indians meet ... the first feeling is often of distrust. Well, he was exaggerating, may be. But not having a common language to start a conversation with can be a major deal-breaker! I am talking about strangers, mind you.
Here's a quick question for all those living outside their, well ... native state: so Tamilians outside TN, Gujuratis outside Gujarat, and so on. How many times have you come across a stranger in your local super-market or in the train compartment opposite your seat and overheard someone talking in your native tongue? And on how many of those occasions have you not reached out to them and said Hello and gone on to make, at least a passing acquaintance? A common language is a huge ice-breaker. I guess those of you reading this who have stayed outside India may relate more to this. In India, we are Mallus, Gujjus, Tams, Ghatis (slang for Maharashtrians, like yours truly). Outside, we are Indians. And I've heard from a lot of friends staying outside, that Hindi is often the language used to communicate with other Indians. Again, let me reiterate the point is not about Hindi, but about a common language.
So coming back to the root of it all, did we err in not having a national language? Bharat says in his post,
India is culturally so diverse, there are so many languages spoken that there cannot be any one such language that defines the culture and history.
I don't quite agree. Yes, India is diverse in terms of languages, customs, traditions. But it is not diverse culturally, or in terms of traditions. Diwali is celebrated everywhere across the country. Harvest festivals are celebrated across the country - they may, of course, be known by different names, and of course celebrated at slightly different times, according to the harvest seasons in the particular geographical area. The traditions are common throughout the country. Now, before you cry, "Nationalist!" or "Hindu Fundamentalist!" (that term is in itself a contradiction, but I won't get into that), let me say that I am not being any of those (supposed or real) things. I am only opining that we are not as diverse as we might seem, at first glance (or may be to a foreigner on the first visit to India). I also don't agree that there cannot (mind you, cannot as opposed to should not) be a national language, simply because there are so many regional languages. Just as people say, 'I am Indian first and Mallu/Gujju/Marathi or Hindu/Muslim/Christian later', so also why can't we have a national language first, and our own native tongue later? Does the existence of a national language dilute the 'importance' (for lack of a better word) of your native tongue so much?!
Bharat also quotes the Constitution:
Article 343 of the constitution specifies that the official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.
But it was decided that till 1965, the proceedings of the courts, the services, and the all-India bureaucracy would be conducted in English.
In 1965, attempts were made to introduce Hindi by force, sparking widespread protests in Tamil Nadu. Then the Union Government extended the use of English in inter-State communication.
Of course, a language should not be forced upon a people. But then, 'attempts were made to ... sparking protests' ... Think about it for a moment: the annexation of the princely states in the Indian Union was also done by force (overt or covert) by then Home Minister Patel. If the amalgamation into the union wasn't forced upon them, then what would have been the state today? And why did Tamil Nadu object to any language (one suspects that it would've been any language other than Tamil: no disrespect meant to Tamilians; I credit this opposition to Tamil politicians and their misplaced chauvinism). Why can't you have Tamil (or the regional State language in other states) as the first/second language and teach a common language?
Which brings me to the third point: What is wrong with having English as the common language. On the face of it, nothing at all. With the passage of time, English has in a way ceased to be a 'foreign' language. Hence, all objections (of nationalists - real or supposed) are invalid. But has it? As much as the goal of teaching English in all government (or private, of course) schools is noble, is it actually happening? If it's not happening with English, then the purpose of having a common language is not being served. The second aspect - and here, I may be called a 'nationalist', and I shall gladly accept that - is that we ought to have an identity as a nation. A national language is part of that identity. It is not the complete identity, but a part of it, for certain. And that identity should be homegrown. A Frenchman has the French language as - again, a part of - his national identity. An Irishman has Irish as part of his identity. Why not have an Indian language as part of our identity - as a people, as a nation? The choice of which language is secondary, in principle, at least. Remember, not everyone is comfortable with English. It is one thing to use it for official purposes - correspondence at work, etc. - and another to use it informally. Some of my friends are not very fluent in English (nothing against them, it's no big deal, honestly!) and yet are fluent in their native tongues and Hindi (and they are not from the 'Hindi belt').
This is not to undermine the importance of the local, regional language. It is very important to know that and I'll be honest enough to admit I'm not very good when it comes to Kannada. I understand and can speak rudimentary Kannada, but not very fluent (fluent would be an over-statement, really). But coming from Bombay, I can say one thing: you can get away with not knowing Marathi in Bombay. Can you say the same thing about Madras (Chennai) or Bangalore? And what do you do if your friends are from different states (as mine). Believe me, when we're all together at the lunch table, we all talk in Hindi - whether we are Marwaris, Gujjus, Marathis, or Kannadigas. Even though all of us are very comfortable with English. And we all enjoy Hindi movies. Oh well, may be that's just me/us.
14 comments:
Nice post Amit :-) Though I don't agree with it completely. Again your opinion :-)
A few comments:
But coming from Bombay, I can say one thing: you can get away with not knowing Marathi in Bombay. Can you say the same thing about Madras (Chennai) or Bangalore?
Not in Madras, English works fine though.
Why can't you have Tamil (or the regional State language in other states) as the first/second language and teach a common language?
That common Language is English.
Why not have an Indian language as part of our identity - as a people, as a nation?
I feel it's not really needed and very difficult to implement. Local Language and English should be fine.
Believe me, when we're all together at the lunch table, we all talk in Hindi - whether we are Marwaris, Gujjus, Marathis, or Kannadigas. Even though all of us are very comfortable with English.
That's really nice! I am sure even a Mallu or a Tamilian might join you:-) We do that in Pune. The problem starts when an ignorant and arrogant someone from the Hindi belt goes to the South and insists on the fact that he will talk "only" in Hindi since its our national language (ignorance) and expect others also to talk in Hindi(arrogance). And then complain that people here don;t talk in Hindi. That's what is Hindi Terrorism. I have seen it happen.
No Offense meant, None taken.
Cheers! Nice post. Keep Writing :-)
Nice post.
I wish you made it little concise though. Granted, you had a lot to say, but the post is (at places, unnecessarily) long! :)
I don't see a necessity for having one National Language, but the way. I like the way it is now - we have official languages and preferred languages. All is well with that. Time and again, people are going to pull towards one language or the other, but order will arise from the mechanism of open market/economy.
Let the market (hence, people) determine which language they want to communicate to each other. The economic and social advantage should drive the language adaptation, not the government, not a group of politicians....
Bharat, I guess it's just fine that you don't agree with everything! The world would've been a very dull place had everyone agreed on one thing!
Having said that, I feel that there are some ... let us say, core aspects that define a people. Whether language can be one of them is debatable. Coming to your comment, I haven't stayed in Madras and have had only a couple of friends (non-natives) who've stayed there. Now two data-points don't a statistic make, but they found it *extremely* difficult even with English.
Again, I stand by my opinion that we need a common language. Whether it be English, or some 'Indian' language is, in some ways, secondary. And yes, I'll admit that the 'arrogance' of Hindi-speaking people (about Hindi) is there, at least with some people. "Do in Rome as the Romans do" is not something that such people appreciate.
Vishal, glad you liked it. Thank you. Yes, it has gotten a bit too long. But for want of time, I didn't expend as much effort on the composition as I'd have liked. As a result, it gets a little long-drawn.
I don't agree that there's no *necessity* of a national language. I'm saying this in a social aspect, not in a politico-cultural aspect. As I said in the post, a common language may be just one of the binders in the fabric of society. Also I don't think the paradigm of free/open market is applicable to this aspect (national language/common language to communicate).
In a different context: May be not as much as India, but Britain is also a multi-cultural society. Imagine what would've happened if it'd have been left to the 'market forces' to decide what works/what doesn't (in the social/cultural context, I mean).
Again, that's just my opinion, may be. Thank you for your comments!
Hi Amit, nice write-up. Having lived in Mumbai almost all my life, never really needed and was never asked to prove my being a 'Mumbaikar'. It feels strange that such an issue should have come up in what is possibly the most cosmopolitan city in India.
Thank you, Sudheer.
Yes, it's true, and ironical that the issue should come up in Mumbai/Bombay of all places :( As a side note, it's interesting to add that actually all, save the fisherfolk are outsiders to Mumbai! They are the first (native) inhabitants! Aah, but we forget this (in)convenient little history ...
Hi, a nice discussion going on here.
The drawback with a 'national' language is that it indirectly means that the language will be forced. It is not surprising that your friends had difficulty in Chennai even though they know English. Not everybody speaks English fluently in Chennai. In that scenario your friends should have picked up the local language (if staying for a long time). I have friends from Bihar, Jharkand and W.Bengal who speak good Tamil. There are many Marwaris and Bengalis who are settled in Chennai and they all speak good Tamil. Similarly any Tamil who intends to stay in the north definitely learns Hindi. For the sake of the comfort and convenience of a few who are reluctant to learn the local language, we cannot force a language as national language. In 1965 only Tamil nadu was protesting against Hindi imposition and the government was not able to make Hindi as national language. Today there are so many states that oppose Hindi. So practically it is not possible to make it as national language.
hi shaan,
thanks for leaving a comment.
my point is that for people staying for a long-time in a different state/region, they *should* learn the regional/local language. But i think that is a little besides the point, which is that there ought to be a common language of the people to communicate. Whether it is Hindi/English/whatever is a moot point, in many ways. What about people who travel for business/pleasure? Not knowing the local language is certainly 'pardonable' in that case, right? Having a common language helps in easier exchange between people. Don't know why people (not you, in particular, and no offence meant) are opposed to the concept of having a common language? Mean don't see a compelling reason *against* it!
Loved the post boss :)
Was thinking of blogging too on similar lines immediately after the assembly disaster .. was bit lazy -- but glad to see something similar here :))
I surely agree with having a national/common language ... though 'locals' should learn the other language too (in due course). But, in no way can the acts of political vandalism can be justified. Guess its time for the 'moderate' marathi manoos to make his presence felt :)
Thank you, Sir! :)
Well, I guess the large section of 'Marathi Manoos' is moderate (though there'll be others who dis-agree). In fact, *too* moderate: the 'Marathi Manoos' will not raise his voice against something that he doesn't agree with, and yet people are pinning it on him!
And yes, of course, can we please think about the nation first? Or do we want 26 (or more) nation-states?!
What I meant there (previous comment) is that just goes to show how the politicians are exploiting the 'Marathi Manoos' for their own selfish gains. It's sad that the Marathi Manoos doesn't realize this :(
bravo .. finally a voice of reason and common sense .. i really don't care for any language being designated as national or not .. but going after people for not knowing one is just a sorry state of affairs ..
nice post ..
Hey @Nishant, @Blog Barfer,
Thanks for your comments. Glad you liked the post! And sorry for the late response :(
And just to summarize a few thoughts... One thing I guess I didn't succeed in bringing out thru the post is this: it's not so much about any _one_ language being designated as the national language. There were two main things:
1. Politicians are utilizing linguistic 'differences' to divide the country, and we are falling prey to them.
2. Perhaps more importantly, I just wanted to highlight the 'benefits' of _one_ (any) common language. (It might be English as well!) A common language spurs exchange of ideas, thoughts, culture et al. And one of the reasons why I feel there's a slight 'distrust' (for lack of a better word) amongst people from different regions is 'coz you have a feeling that you might not be able to _communicate_ with the person! An invisible barrier exists (in the absence of a common language), whether we realize it or not.
These were the two main thoughts that were the premise of this post.
Thanks everyone for your comments!
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